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One of my favourite types of interviews is when I get to interview someone who has hit their financial independence or retirement number early, and then picking their brain on how they got there, what worked well for them, what didn’t, what mistakes they could have avoided, and learning what makes them feel happy and fulfilled both before and after hitting financial independence.
Well this time, I got to do this with one of the most famous personal finance experts in Canada, David Chilton, who, as you may know, was also one of the dragons on Dragon’s Den.
Dave’s bestselling book, The Wealthy Barber, was actually the first personal finance book that I ever read. I read it decades ago in high school, and in a way, it actually started me down this path of early financial independence.
Dave has recently released a massive update to the book, so we cover what has changed in personal finance and investing in Canada over the years, and what Canadians need to know about now when it comes to personal finance and investing in Canada.
I’m incredibly grateful that Dave has chosen to spend so much of his time educating Canadians and trying to improve financial literacy here in Canada. You can definitely tell that he’s not doing it for some massive financial gain, and is genuinely trying to help.
Let’s get into the interview.
Links from the Episode
You can get Dave’s new book and free education content over on his site at TheWealthyBarber.com.
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“Views from the Desk” Podcast

On this podcast, we often cover best practices that can not only help you now, but will also be relevant throughout your investment lifetime. But what if you also want an update on what is happening with your investments, the markets, and the economy right now?
To help me stay up-to-date on these topics, a great Canadian podcast that I listen to weekly is called “Views from the Desk” (Apple, Spotify, Direct).
They provide timely information for us Canadians on what is happening to our investments right now, as well as other key factors affecting us like changes to our interest rates, our inflation, and regulatory changes that we should know about.
The podcast is hosted by BMO ETFs. I’m a huge fan of theirs, I own a lot of BMO ETFs myself, and it’s a great free resource for both new and existing ETF investors.
I hope you check them out. All episodes are available for free in your favourite podcast player. Just search for “Views from the Desk” or click one of the links below:
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Questions Covered:
- Dave, the original Wealthy Barber sold over 2 million copies. It’s a Canadian classic. You’ve also achieved massive success with the Looneyspoons books. After becoming financially independent, you could be doing anything, yet you spent 16 months doing a complete rewrite of the original Wealthy Barber book. What was the driving force or the frustration that made you feel you had to do this now?
- In addition to the book, you also have a podcast, a YouTube channel, and I recall you mentioning that you’re also working on an AI tool that takes your past lessons and research, and lets Canadians ask questions based on your teachings.
With so much good content out there already, what motivates you to keep working on these projects and adding to the content instead of fully retiring? (It doesn’t look like more wealth generation is your primary motivator with these projects.) - At this stage of your life, and after all your financial successes and being on Dragon’s Den, you must have an abundance of choices when it comes to how you spend your time. How do you decide what projects are worth it and how do you filter what you say “yes” to? (personally and especially professionally)
- For so many of us, our identity is tied to our career and the goal of “getting there” financially. But, when you get there, and you’re financially free, there can be a void: You’ve won the game, reached the top of the mountain, now what? Have you ever experienced this, and if so, how did you navigate it?
- One of the big changes from the initial release of your book to present day is how much easier it has become to be a DIY, low-cost, passive index investor through the use of ETFs. What are your thoughts about using asset allocation ETFs vs buying the individual underlying ETFs and putting them in the most efficient accounts to save a bit on fees and gain some extra tax optimization? (or do you suggest something else for the average Canadian?)
- A lot has been written on safe withdrawal rates over the years, with much of the research being done in the US, using US data. For us Canadians, what are your thoughts about how much we can sustainably withdraw from our portfolio annually in retirement, to not run out?
- Where can we read or listen to your new book, and the other educational podcasts and videos that you make?
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